A Man You Can Stand By

Background:

This is based on a very real and very personal story. In short, years ago, I picked up the little brother of someone I dated from his football practice. It was very early on in the relationship, and an awkward car ride followed, especially because the little brother wasn't quite sure how we felt about the whole thing yet. I wanted to hint at "stand by" as evoking the idea of a future groomsman (saying hey, I'm in this for the long run). While that didn't happen, the boy did have an unexpected death years later (cancer). The "man you can stand by" changed from "i'll be by you at your wedding" to "stand by my family when I'm gone, regardless of where your relationship goes." (In the true story, I was one of two people that showed up to support the sibling despite them having married and divorced and a lot of confusion circling what we'd be - if anything. In this case, I'd promised the brother years before that I'd always be a friend.)

I'm primarily looking for feedback on a better chorus. I'm trying to write something here that evolves in meaning and perspective throughout the story: first as me defending the relationship, then as him saying "just treat em well", then as me years later saying "look man, your death hit hard and I'm not sure I did this right." and finally, it ends by saying essentially "I want to stand by you and Jesus one day because that's what ultimately matters"

Appreciate your thoughts.


Lyrics

Football seasons wrapping up

And Your pads go in the back

Of a mustang that's just way too small

But we won't acknowledge that.

I don't know what you've been told

Cuz you won't look me in the eyes

But somethin' tells me It's a long drive home

On a strangely silent night.


I swear I ain't done nothing

I'm not proud of or not right.

But I’m sorry that you walked in on

That kiss you saw last night

I’d lock the door if I’d have known

The little bro would just barge in

But cool on down not here to mess around

I want you on my side.


I don't wanna fight with you

I think you're a great guy.

So if you think I’m wrong

Then please man let’s move on

We can be a team

Buy man just promise me

you’ll love us till the end

If it comes to me I hope you see

I'm a man you can stand by.


He pauses in the door way

Turns to look then there's a sigh.

Look man I ain't said nothing or

My momma’d lose her mind

I wont claim that you are someone

That I like or not tonight,

But if ya promise me then we can see

I just might think that youre alright.


I don't wanna fight with you

I think you're a great guy.

So if you think I’m wrong

Then please let’s move on

We can be a team

But man just promise me

you’ll love us till the end

If it comes to me I hope you see

I'm a man you can stand by.


I thought it’d be a wedding

Where we’d pick the left or right

As we lay to rest a final test

We haven't talked much since that night.

I promised you i loved you too,

But man, this wasn't planned.

Still i stand here now as we lay you down,

You sure know how to fight.


I'm not saying I was perfect

But man please know that I tried,

To keep the word and honor that

I made with you that night.

I wont lie sometimes I cry

Cuz what I gave was more than words.

Remind me now i didn't let ya down

I’m not sure I did this right.


I don't wanna fight with you

I think you're a great guy.

So if you think I’m wrong

please don’t hit too hard

I miss ya man and hope you understand,

I'm a man, i didnt mean lie.

Oh brother I don't wanna fight with you

But boy, Your timing is never right.


If heavens gates take both our names

I'll see ya there inside.

For now please know it wasn't just a show

We put up our best fights.


I don't wanna fight with you

I think you're a great guy

But I miss ya man

Please understand

You're one I can't wait to stand by.

Comments

  • That must have been very hard for you to put those feelings down on paper.

    The emotions flow throughout the whole piece.

    I applaud your strength to share such a raw experience.

    I'm sure the boss of this outfit, RDM can help you out with the chorus,

    he has a knack of pairing up the right words to each emotion.

    Humbled by your contribution.

    Sid

  • I'll offer some suggestions, but this is obviously such a personal song that what feels right to you is the most important thing.

    I think that without the background story it might be hard to make sense of who is who in the lyric. So I would suggest using pronouns quite strictly. If you start by referring to the brother as you (your pads) then always use "you" for him, never "he" or even "lil bro". And any reference to "I" should mean the narrator. Don't allow the bro to ever use "I". You may not want to take that advice though because it could be counter to that evolution in meaning and perspective that you're looking for.

    I'd be tempted to change the lines in V2 slightly to:

    I swear I ain't done nothing

    to your sister that's not right.

    I think that might clarify the relationship

    In your chorus, I like "I don't wanna fight with you", but I don't like "I think you're a great guy". You might try for something like "We haven't got the time" instead - the meaning of that could certainly evolve over the song.

    Kudos for choosing something so real and intense to write a song about. It's not easy. Don't rush it, it will come together over time if you keep working on it.

  • RDM,

    If you ever find time, you should open a thread in discussions decribing your approach to critiquing lyrics/songs.

    You see so much that, speaking for myself, I don't. To improve on our/my own failings in this area would greatly improve on proofreading before submitting a piece.

    Appreciate you giving it some thought.

    Sid

  • Thanks for the feedback! I posted it here wanting opinions even if its hard to hear them.
    (one of my favorite lyrics got flagged a few years ago, and I was told it sounded weird. and though the feedback stung a bit, when I really considered it, the thing I'd written didn't work. The revised wording was simple, and it ended up creating one of my absolute favorite tracks.

    And i think this is another example of that. The comment about revising "I think you're a great guy" was what it needed, and i was too close to pinpoint that. I swapped it to "I dont wanna fight with tou/I'm not just another guy", and that's helped make a click with a few other small details.

    So thanks for being honest!
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