AI Experiment

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  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited June 2024

    Just what I guessed they're fighting it


    https://bit.ly/45vmzTs


    Them robots got the samples somewhere , So your basically robbing the artists and session players.

    Here's a clue pick up the guitar and learn how to sing

  • [Deleted User]
    edited June 2024

    LOL! AI music algorithms have turned some lives into "participation trophy and award events" for those who can't write or perform songs. I saw a hilarious cartoon the other day. A kid holding his phone pressed a button. An AI algorithm wrote, sang, and produced a song for him. He smiled and said, "Listen, mom! I wrote, sang, and produced this song!" LOL!

    In the near future, Grammy acceptance speeches will include: "Thank you for this award! It took us several tries to press the right AI buttons on our phones, but the results were worth it." LOL!

    I think in the not too distant future, real songwriters who write our own songs will need to post videos of ourselves performing our own songs on acoustic guitar or piano and singing just to prove our songs are authentic and written by a human being. I actually like that idea. Yet, deep fakes may eventually call even that into question. One will need to stand directly in front of someone playing and singing live to be fairly sure it's real and not AI. Plus, there could be another issue where AI completely writes a song, and an artist who *can* actually write, sing, and play claims he wrote the song, then takes credit for it, records it, and performs it under that fake claim.

    At least as far as I know, no one on this forum has tried to fool anyone into thinking they wrote a song that AI wrote. I think posters to this forum who use AI to write their songs have acknowledged as much. But why use AI for writing songs? There are plenty of real musicians and vocalists seeking real lyricists and vice versa. SMH...

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited June 2024

    But why use AI? There are plenty of real musicians and vocalists seeking real lyricists and vice versa, Right , I hope the sue the fuck out them AI sites. Chicken - shit bs.

  • [Deleted User]
    edited June 2024

    I'm sure the lawsuits are flying in cases of plagiarism (theft) of music that can be proven in court. I believe the companies that make movies, commercials, shows, and other content that's sold, broadcast, and/or streamed online are using (and will use) AI-generated music and songs in order to avoid paying fees, commissions, and royalties to human artists for songs they wrote. It's the grim reality of the world we live in now. I think it will ultimately drive up the value and appreciation of authentic, real, human-written music and songs. It's difficult to imagine how someone can present an AI-written song and expect people to take it seriously. Let's hope it's a novelty that wears off and goes away like a fad, but, unfortunately I think it's here to stay. I think the best course of action for now is to identify songs written by AI, and place those songs in a category/genre of their own.

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited June 2024

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  • Ai dogs, virtual flights? I'd be nervous about marrying the Daisy Duke 783. It might bite off more than I want it to chew!!

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited June 2024

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  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited June 2024

    Well you can't really write a song unless you've lost 4 wifes and a few houses, I don't think Robots can't duplicate that. If suicide is not part of your journey , Well the robots won't help you, All that loss and all that jazz , in every book of stars . After all that , I guarantee you'll turn into Bill Burr . You guys won't listen to me , You'll sell out to robots ,

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited June 2024
  • @ElvisNash Elvis I think you need to calm down a bit. This is obviously a topic that you're passionate about, but keep the language family friendly please.

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited June 2024

    If you add an R

    You got air like the kind you breathe

    Or an M you have aim

    As in aim to please

    But AI by itself

    It don’t mean spit

    Mama forgive my language

    But AI don’t spell shit


    That's the chorus , it sounds to darn good


    I had buddy submit this to a Nashville publisher


    Lets see how calm they are and language

    Ok man i'll chill

  • [Deleted User]
    edited June 2024

    Good points, Elvis. For me, the pleasure is in composing songs starting with the music and then the lyrics, and then recording the song that I created. I write songs to please myself, and hopefully others like some of my compositions too.

    I think most songwriters before AI emerged felt the same. My girl laughed and said maybe we'll reach a point where AI writes and performs all of the songs, and posts to an AI songwriting forum filled with AI bots that review the songs, and then we can have a personal AI assistant read and summarize the reviews for us while we enjoy tea or a mixed drink. Where does the lunacy end? LOL!

    Before then, I think many future singers will commission an AI service to create a few hundred artificial songs, and they'll select the best ones, put their own spin on it, and release it as "their" new album/CD. They may be doing that already. Sad times, but also amusing at the same time. LOL!

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited June 2024

    I've changed my mind (that happens with 60,000 thoughts a day)

    Its great tool for evaluating songs : to be passed on to session players , for ideas.

    Why would I care a novice writer wants to use AI to show off songs?

    They sound ( Almost) real , Ethos and Pathos' needs a human voice to reach that.


    You need Xanac to read all that bs on AI , I'm done with it

  • [Deleted User]
    edited June 2024

    Good deal. There are a lot of interesting opinions in the forum regarding AI. I think it will come about regardless of the views people express, so comments about it are probably immaterial. 😄

    I'm working on my next track -- "She Walks In Beauty in the Night". I love songwriting. 😀😎

  • Quite the lively thread ! Lots of great conversation about the AI intrusion into the music industry, though some may hail it as an infusion into the music industry, yup I'm a fence rider too, a watcher and waiter.

    Personally, I've only used the AI as a guideway to getting a more balanced mix in my studio . . . and I find if I let the AI totally drive the bus, I don't get satisfactory results, for my ears. Let's face it, we want the analog sound in a digital world.

    I've yet to hear anything AI totally blow me away from a creative or originality point of view, but agree it opens some new doors for some lyric creators and music producers. The main thing I always hear in these AI conversations is . . . "It will learn, it will get better" kind of thing. Seems to be a "we are old, and it is young" situation, I've lived long enough to have that laugh about "what are these kids listening to these days, kind of sucks", which is exactly what our parents were saying back in the day about our new music.

    "Artificial" creativity tends to be a mimicry of existing generic styles, because it pulls from the database of what humanity has already created, so far.

    Time will tell if it's a trendy fad, a mere shortcut to talent, or a revolution evolution, of how things are done in the future.

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited June 2024

    https://suno.com/song/fa9ea342-a04e-44c6-9c4c-0d15e0764075


    I could take that arrangement, use session players to cut it



    British Invasion in Nashville


    I think AI is only in baby stages , I can't see into the future , Who knows where this is going



    Exactly, A bunch of old farts.. "what are these kids listening to these days, kind of sucks", which is exactly what our parents were saying back in the day about our new music. ( OLD FART Disease ) , its not fatal , But burn your Tshirt . Grandpa knows better . I guess working with AI is better thinking that Pablo Escobar was some kinda hero to Columbia. Why I'm am I watching this movie ?

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited June 2024

    Michael August – Pro Publisher wrote:


    Hey Bennett,


    Very interesting conversation we're having. Actually funny because Clay Mills and I were having the same discussion. There's no doubt that the music and track sound decent here and the melody created is modern. 


    That being said, we are not accepting AI generated songs (even if it is track and melody) at this point because the copyright laws are not defined enough on the matter. Also, taking into consideration the artists thoughts, ideas and stance on AI, we would never want to pitch an AI song because this could hinder our chances as well as end up not being the best look for our company. 


    Excited to talk more about this!


    there ya go , Nashville does not like them , So use it as a tool for ideas, But track it with Session players and sing it

  • my little bit on this.


    Ai has no copyright problems, it's simply labels worried they will no longer control artists and they are worried about all the money they will no longer earn.

    labels have been controlling music for years, everyone knows it, Ai gives ppl a chance to create demos for free, once it gets better it will be the way ppl make demos, you can even sing into it and it will make the music to fit it, you can play music into it and it will help make a full track.

    why wouldn't ppl use it, i went to a studio for music to lyrics i'd written and it was £290, that's before mixing and mastering its simply not affordable for most anymore.

    Ai is not breaking any laws as even if they made it listened to every song written its only doing what we do when we listen, ask any band and they have influences that shape their music, Ai is the same.

    The labels will lose or settle in the courts its all about them controlling the output so they can charge for it.

  • ElvisNash
    ElvisNash Calif
    edited August 2024

    just my opinion of course, but I'm just glad that I grew up when I did


    Not me , I want to be born in the year 3000 , So I can sit home fish and bake cookies and let robots do all the work .

    Drive water cars by Elon.. Give me more time to talk about politics and religion . Them fascinating subjects like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest . With any luck The Coke Frued theory will kick in and Prozac . co founded by Motley Crew . Live to 150 years old , with a mortgage still to pay . Freeze Trump , so he can come back in the year 4000 , I'm sure porn stars will still be around . maybe by then , they 'll have a 401 package . 300 year old hookers . John is a still a boring name . How about Vinny ? By then will marrying robots . Yes give me the no bitching model . 40000 C . Ahh yes she's on sale. By then the NRA will have approved Nuclear weapons to buy on Amazon. Wow Homer , buy that baby . You always want look good at 71 years old , You never know if a 22 year old Starbucks girl , might interested

  • LoudMe is another AI site that's fairly new and free at the time I'm writing.

    I tried it out giving it the lyrics from one of my prev songs, and i have to say that I think it did a pretty good job:

    https://loudme.ai/m/cm0fx3d2i03hrof5r2iqs26ot

  • remember this Ai music is very young, give it a year and you wont be bale to tell the difference

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