Suno user's

I've been using udio, since it came out first. I'll probably be using suno cause it will allow me to use my musical parts as opposed to just lyrics guiding the music

But one thing I wanted to know is, with suno are you able to change tempo or change keys in a song?

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  • Hardtwistmusic
    Hardtwistmusic Salem, Oregon

    I can't, but if you are more musically trained and/or more accomplished than I am YOU can.

  • sidshovel
    sidshovel merseyside

    This may be useful to you

    https://help.suno.com/en/articles/6141505

    Sid

  • Domd
    Domd New Jersey
    edited July 8
    @Hardtwistmusic lol funny answer. Wasn't a personal question though.

    @sidshovel thanks will definitely read that
  • I'll leave this one for people who are more qualified to speak.

  • Hardtwistmusic
    Hardtwistmusic Salem, Oregon

    As it turns out, you have already used the "upload audio" feature that I haven't yet used. And, as it turns out, you can play in a band to create audio to upload.

    Which means you DO have musical training and skills that I lack. And, it means that you can utilize the Suno A.I. in ways I cannot. More importantly, you seem to be willing to share what you know and listen to others. THAT is the truly rare skill.

  • Hardtwistmusic
    Hardtwistmusic Salem, Oregon

    I missed one of your questions. Yes you can change keys and tempo in the song in several ways. You can do it with instructions, and you can actually dictate the chords for each measure. I don't do that because the software is better at picking chords than I am, but I've seen it done with some really good results.

  • Domd
    Domd New Jersey
    @ hardtwist. These forums used to be more focused on pushing fellow users to do great things.

    Recently it's not taken well, it's taken as an insult.

    And thanks, I am all I'm on these conversations, they are worth while, if taken in the spirit they are offered in .And thanks for your answers
  • franswa
    franswa Buffalo, NY

    I tried Suno today for the second time. First upload it couldn’t quite get it. The second one it blew it out of the park. It moved me. I plan to take a closer look.

  • Hardtwistmusic
    Hardtwistmusic Salem, Oregon

    There are things I've been able to do with my limited skill set because I worked really hard and long to figure out how other people were able to manipulate the software to achieve incredible results. That involved a couple hundred hours of listening and evaluating the setups. Here is the point I'm making. Someone with YOUR skillset could do truly incredible things compared to what I've been able to accomplish. I'd be happy to explain how.

  • franswa
    franswa Buffalo, NY
  • Hardtwistmusic
    Hardtwistmusic Salem, Oregon
    1. The many hours of listening I mentioned is integral to using Suno in my opinion. Hearing what others are able to do, and (as importantly) HOW they did it is a step that can't be skipped if you want to get out of the "hit or miss" situation you mentioned.
    2. With your skills, you can write partial instrumentals and upload them to get numerous ideas that you can pick and choose from. You can then put the best ideas together with real instruments and get something that is entirely yours, but that you used a tool for. I suspect you're already uploading, so this is easy for you.
    3. Invest some time listening to the available genres available. I have found one (Illbient Afrikaner Folk) that moderates Southern Rock, Rock, Country, Celtic, Classical etc. I seldom don't use it. If I hadn't invested a couple of hours listening to hundreds of genre selections, I'd have never have found it.
    4. Notice that the next generation improvement is going to include converting to MIDI. That will be huge for me. I'll be able to dis-assemble and re-assemble any of my songs and shorten, lengthen, change sequence and so many other things. I presume you can play instruments and record in MIDI already.
    5. Notice that I keep talking about investments. Investments of time primarily. There is no substitute. If you are to make the best use of your skillset, investing time is of the utmost importance. Nothing good comes easy.
    6. Listening to what you've already posted, you are obviously skilled at selecting instrumentation. Suno lets you make multiple copies and play with different instrumentation packages. It won't (imo) end up better, but it will get there quicker in most cases.
    7. If you want me to, I can direct you to some users on Suno who have done some particularly impressive things. I've discussed with them how they did that. With some, it's just dumb luck. With some, it's hard work. With some, it's an impressive skillset in musical knowledge that allows them to do what I cannot do - provide detailed note by note, chord by chord, or measure by measure information. I suspect you could do that as well as they do.
  • Domd
    Domd New Jersey
    All good points, but the other thing is to listen in general. To good writers, good artists, good songs, it's still very much ..crap in crap out, it just sounds really good.

    It's also good to have the song completed. The songs that work best for me are songs that I have already completed and set to music.

    Cause if it works, it works.

    I plan on using ai note as a band in future. I'm not quite satisfied but being in the recording.

    Buts it's invaluable to lyric people and alot of fun
  • Hardtwistmusic
    Hardtwistmusic Salem, Oregon

    I think you've already figured this out, but my whole point is that your outcomes are heavily affected by your investments. If you're not getting much out of Artificial Intelligence and you've invested a lot of time and effort into learning it and using it, that would be disappointing. But if you're not getting much out of it, and you've not invested much into it, that's a whole different problem. You seem to have grasped that, but some have not.

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