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 Posted: Tue Dec 7th, 2010 12:16 pm
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Hello fellow music lovers.

I was wondering if there are any tips/hints for me, I do use an USB microphone and Aktiv MP3 recorder to record my songs.

Is there a better way or software (preferably free) that I could use.

Also I have a little noise in my recordings, hissing sound, how can I delete or prevent this?

I specialy bought an USB mic for this, and it is aleady much better then the jack plus version I've had before, but still !

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Mac or PC?



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just1L wrote:
Mac or PC?

PC sry indeed ( and onboard soundcard) I just found audicity wich gives me already a few nice options.



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A lot of people use that with great success. Good luck.



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Thanks, I made a ( for me satisfying) recording with audicity, except that I was unable to limit the noise i have from the recording, ah well, its not ment to be produced for cd, so it probably will do for the TSF xmas open mic.

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For the hissing sound problem you can find a noise gate. I'm not familiar with PC recording. But from what I've heard you can find them online.
What a noise gate does is make things absolutely silent until you reach a certain Db level and the noise gate opens. Let's say for example the noise is about -15 Db's. You would set your gate to open at -14 or -13 Db' so when the music starts it will be loud enough to open the gate and you won't hear the hiss.



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Thanks Patrick, will look into it later, found a plugin for audicity, so tonite I go experiment with it.



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Thank you also from me Patrick. I've been having the same problem and never knew what I needed to look for to fix it!



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Patrick's dead right that a noise gate is an effective way of getting rid of low level noise in a recording, but it is a gate - it's either open or shut - which means if the noise is mixed in with something that you want to keep in your recording, the noise gate won't help a great deal, mainly because the signal you want to keep is above the threshold at which the noise gate is set to cut in and silence everything.  Also, noise gates can be rather difficult to set up so that they're getting rid of the noise in the quiet passages but not cutting off the decay of some of the quieter bits of music.

One way I've found around this is to use noise reduction filters built into a lot of the software, including audacity.  Basically, these delightful little creatures analyse a sample of the noise you want to get rid of in terms of its frequency content, and then go through and attenuate that frequency content throughout the recorded material, not just when things have gone below a certain threshold like noise gates do.  I've just had a quick look at the audacity program and it has a noise reduction feature built into its effects menu.  With this you just select an area of the recording where you can only hear the noise you want to eliminate, and hit the learn button.  Once you've done that, the software now knows exactly what you want to get rid of, so you then select the whole of the recording and hit process.  The software then goes through the recording and just gets rid of the noise, nothing else.

This is just another technique you can put in your tool kit and then use whichever gives you the best result for the type of track and noise you happen to be dealing with.

Of course, if you want to get really sophisticated, then there is software out there that really gives you pretty much ultimate control over the noise.  One example is iZotope's Rx Advanced which I've seen used by professionals.  When you load a file into this little gem, it analyses the frequency content of the recording and displays it on a frequency spectrum graph.  You can then go to any particular component of the recording and change it in any number of ways.  I saw a guy manipulating the sound from a wedding video to get rid of the wind and aircraft noise.  Basically both were really obvious on the frequency spectrum graph and he just went and selected only that component of the sound and then reduced the gain by about 20dB - end result almost inaudible wind and aircraft noise.  Awesome stuff, but pretty expensive I guess.




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I tryed out that noise gate, but indeed it only gets rid of the frequences that are dominant ( alone on a track ), it's giving me bad end sounds, probbably I am to rookie for this technical issues lol.

Sunburst I will a look into that iZotope's RX program later, bit busy right now, I am happy that I could make a decent recording for the open christmas event.

Thanks all for sure, I loved the input, it keeps my brain overheating haha



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When on a budget, buying a good cheap preamp and a good cheap dynamic microphone is still the best way to go. Look at the DMP3 or VTB1 (you can change the tubes for better ones); and for the mics, Electro voice ND767A (neutral) or a Shure 58 or Beta58, or a Sennheiser 800 series.



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I use USB microphone too. It is really sool thing!



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The audacity noise reduction feature has worked pretty well for me.  Like Sunburst wrote, you don't want to eliminate any frequencies that are a part of your actual performance.  You'll degrade your recording.  Here's something I tried with some success: if you are not able to make a clean recording, I suggest that when you are in record, once you stop singing/playing, let the recording run for a good 30 seconds or more before you hit stop.  Hold your breath, keep absolutely still, and that 30 plus seconds left at the end of your track should give you a decent sample to highlight for noise reduction.  Hope that helps.

Sunburst wrote: Patrick's dead right that a noise gate is an effective way of getting rid of low level noise in a recording, but it is a gate - it's either open or shut - which means if the noise is mixed in with something that you want to keep in your recording, the noise gate won't help a great deal, mainly because the signal you want to keep is above the threshold at which the noise gate is set to cut in and silence everything.  Also, noise gates can be rather difficult to set up so that they're getting rid of the noise in the quiet passages but not cutting off the decay of some of the quieter bits of music.

One way I've found around this is to use noise reduction filters built into a lot of the software, including audacity.  Basically, these delightful little creatures analyse a sample of the noise you want to get rid of in terms of its frequency content, and then go through and attenuate that frequency content throughout the recorded material, not just when things have gone below a certain threshold like noise gates do.  I've just had a quick look at the audacity program and it has a noise reduction feature built into its effects menu.  With this you just select an area of the recording where you can only hear the noise you want to eliminate, and hit the learn button.  Once you've done that, the software now knows exactly what you want to get rid of, so you then select the whole of the recording and hit process.  The software then goes through the recording and just gets rid of the noise, nothing else.

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I use a USB mic and record onto Ableton Live.  I have noticed a couple of things about the hiss.

1)  Most of the hiss on my recordings comes from noise that's always there, but I don't pay attention to it.  It's just background noise.  This sounds pretty obvious now, but it was quite the revelation for me.  The two biggest culprits in my man cave are the fan on my computer and the dehumidifier in the basement.  Shutting the basement door helps.  Positioning my body between the computer and the mic helps a ton even though having my back to the computer makes it awkward to work with.

2)  I have found that recording everything as loud as I can without clipping and turning it down while mixing makes the hiss less noticeable.



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