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 Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 08:23 pm
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This is something that has been bouncing around in my head for a hook but I don't have a lot to go with it. If someone would like to get involved in cowriting this one I would love to see your ideas for this thing. I thought about going the other way with it as well, something like...If you can't hang with us great big dogs, then you need to stay on the porch. As if through the course of a conversation.

Running with The Big Dogs
Barry Williams

The rent I've paid on this old bar stool
bought its owner a new car
tonight I'm here alone and everything I own

is sitting right there on the bar

I’ve paid the price been married three times
and three times I’ve been divorced
Cause I was running with the great big dogs
when I should of stayed on the porch


 
I drank like Hank and smoked like Willie
showed off my assets like a real Hillbilly

nothing to show but that brand new porche
cause I been running with them great big dogs
wish I’d just stayed on the porch

Last edited on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 02:23 am by RedinFla



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 Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 10:45 pm
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It's a great theme Barry...........:)

So now ya ask yourself.............WWMD? .......(What would Merle do?).........LOL

I think there's some great potential.........;) ........I really love these lines:
I drank like Hank and smoked like Willie
showed off my assets like a real Hillbilly

Have you thought about doin' a different twist on the hook?
Maybe the implication of the cliche is enough.........:cool:

Let it sink in on me a bit........I'd be glad to throw ya some ideas............:)



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Hey Barry..........what about this?.........;)

Cause I was runnin' with the big dogs
 when I should of stayed on the chain.


Maybe tie it in with the old 'ball an' chain' thing.........:cool:

Jus' a suggestion..........thought I'd throw it to ya before I forgot it.........LOL

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Cool hook Red. Just looking at the title, I would have said 'rock' song - which is probably not where you're heading lol. There's gotta be a song in there somewhere. Keep at it.



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Lissa. WWMD, I will never forget that, that's a great way to look at things. Especialy if your trying to write some lyrics. I like the ball and chain idea, maybe something more like being off or on your leash.

Maybe something ike..........

Here I sit on this old bar stool
cause tonight I'm off the leash
laughing drinking acting the fool
staying till they make me leave
 
I've done my time with all three wives
and twice now I've been divorced
tonight I'm running with the big dogs
had to jump down off the porch

I'm gonna drink like Hank and smoke like Willie
painting this town red I'll party till I'm silly
if some gal asks me to dance I will say ofcourse
tonight I'm running with the great big dogs
I had to get down off that porch

I know there'll be hell to pay when I pull up on the lawn
truth be told it'll probaby be early tommorow morn
when I'm done running with these great big dogs
I'll go back to sleep on the porch







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Thanks Owen, I believe theres a song in there too, just gotta find it. Who knows by the time it gets flushed out it may be a rock song.



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RainyDayMan wrote: Cool hook Red. Just looking at the title, I would have said 'rock' song - which is probably not where you're heading lol. There's gotta be a song in there somewhere. Keep at it.
I dunno.........I think that saying originated here in the south.........but like you,  I definitely believe it's become "cool" enough to fall into pop/rock........:cool:..........I think this would do fine commercially if it was molded into one of those country-pop/country-rock hybrids.........;)
Unfortunately.......that's NOT WMWD..........LOL..........;)

Maybe a musical twist on pokin' fun at the "new" music?..........:shock:.........Now THAT sounds more like Merle...........:D

As for the lyrics...........I LOVE the first verse.........:D

This is where,  for me........it loses me.......:?
I've done my time with all three wives
and twice now I've been divorced
tonight I'm running with the big dogs
had to jump down off the porch

What about somethin' like this?

Been chained three times by different girls
An' twice now been turned loose
Tonight I'm runnin' with the big dogs
Workin' on shakin' that third noose



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Dunno if you've thought about using a more structured chorus.........:)
Here's what I came up with...........;)


I'm gonna run.........run with the big dogs
Gonna light this town with a torch
I'm gonna run.......run with the big dogs
Yep....I think it's time to get off of this porch



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lissaw70 wrote: Dunno if you've thought about using a more structured chorus.........:)
Here's what I came up with...........;)


I'm gonna run.........run with the big dogs
Gonna light this town with a torch
I'm gonna run.......run with the big dogs
Yep....I think it's time to get off of this porch


I like your idea for the chorus, but I'm not sure I can hear it the way you wrote it, maybe something like this........

I'm going running with the big dogs
my old flames got a brand new torch
I'm going running with them great big dogs
it's time I climbed down off the porch



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What about this for a chorus???

Sitting here on this old bar stool
cause tonight I'm off the leash
laughing drinking acting the fool
and staying till they make me leave

I've done my time with all three wives
and three times I've been divorced
I'm running with the big dogs now
had to jump down off the porch

I'm gonna drink like Hank
and smoke like Willie
painting this town red
party till I'm silly
if some gal asks to dance 
well I'll say of course
cause I'm running with the big dogs now
I had to get down off that porch



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Hey Red - the thought I mentioned in the PM was this:

I've done my time with all three wives
and three times I've been divorced
I finally chewed through those chains
and jumped down off the porch

to fit in with Lissa's idea about the ball and chain, but I guess that sort of gets rid of the big dogs reference.  Oh well, I'll keep thinking.

 



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I like it

I've done my time with all three wives
and three times I've been divorced
I finally chewed through those chains
and jumped down off the porch


What do you think of...

I've done my time with all three wives
and three times I've been divorced
got myself free of all my chains
and jumped down off the porch



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How about these words


When I got thru paintin the town

with nothin to show but being a clown

I had some fun , and acted silly

yea! I thought could drink like Hank

And smoke like Willy

 

Nobody to answer to ,but myself

Got tired of waitin on the shelve

Got off the Porch at the break of day

went into town , wanted to play

got tired of chewin on the same old bone

cause man don`t livel by bread alone 

 

And if that pretty little thing  ask me to dance

I`ll smile and say I`ll take that chance

running with the big dogs , is just  fair game

Its ever man , just doing his thing

 Keep or sweep its up to you

Just some lines I thought up  , I really like where you are going with song/and I want to hear it when you put it together//Granny(Barbara)

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Some pretty good ideas there Granny, I like alot of it, but I don't think I want this one to have remourse for his actions. this ones all about breaking out, breaking free, and living wild.



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:)........Lookin' good!

I like these lines............

I know there'll be hell to pay when I pull up on the lawn
truth be told it'll probaby be early tommorow morn
when I'm done running with these great big dogs
I'll go back to sleep on the porch


But as always......I do have a suggestion........;)

How 'bout this?..........:)

I know there'll be hell to pay when I pull up on the lawn
truth be told it'll probably be close to early dawn
when I'm tired of runnin' with these great big dogs
I'm gonna find me another porch

Just a suggestion.........:)..........but I thought it'd make a great endin'.........;)



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