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 Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2020 08:49 pm
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I Saw the Light

https://youtu.be/XveraXuJzT4

Father oh Father,
I pray to thee
A lifetime sinner,
....it's me
It's been nothing but darkness
And a constant haze
Never a morning
to take them away

With no hope in sight,
I was almost through
Then I saw the light
and I cried out to you

(Chorus)

Father oh Father,
I'm on my knees
praying for redemption
Thankful Jesus died for me

I'm getting chills
As I kneel and pray
I feel the Holy Spirit
Showing me the way

Now it's so clear,
what I couldn't see
When brought into the light
Forever set me free..


(Chorus)

Bridge:
Once blinded by darkness
Until I saw the light
That led me from the shadows
Of those endless nights

------Chorus---------
I saw the light
The Beacon of salvation
It was so bright
I had this affirmation
Just ask Jesus to be saved
And he'll wash your sins away
So you can rise and shine
On Judgement Day

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Just ask Jesus to be saved
And he'll wash your sins away
So you can rise and shine
On Judgement Day



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 Posted: Sun Oct 11th, 2020 03:47 am
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It's a very good Christian song, John. I liked the lyrics, the music, the vocals, your guitar playing, and most importantly the message! Nice work! :D




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Thank you Joseph,
I'm very glad you liked it. It's a rewrite from my first Christian song "Father oh Father" that I just dusted off and freshener up. :)



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 Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2020 12:42 pm
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Thanks for posting this, John.
It's great to hear new gospel songs being written.
I have a few technical comments that might help.

Not sure if your recording method/software will support this but...
It works better for me to record my accompaniment first and then add the vocals.

It also hides that fact that I am such a terrible guitar player.
I couldn't even record my songs the way you are doing it.
The recording software allows me to record the progressions until I get it right.
Then I copy/paste the good part and repeat it to fill the verse/chorus.

It would also give you the opportunity to add other instruments and a drum track.
You could also eliminate all the ambient noise from the room you are recording in.
Vocals sound so much better when close miked. IMHO
You can add a reverb effect in the software. Then you have more control over it.
The setup I have only cost me $100. Best purchase I ever made.

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 Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2020 12:54 pm
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Thank you so much. Although I will continue to do my work live, I'm one of the few people on earth that don't own a computer.

My amp has full effects built in. I have a little reverb currently on my vocal channel are you suggesting more?



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John_Sturgill wrote: Thank you so much. Although I will continue to do my work live, I'm one of the few people on earth that don't own a computer.

My amp has full effects built in. I have a little reverb currently on my vocal channel are you suggesting more?

More reverb?
No, considerably less.

Given your situation, here is what I would suggest...
You need to get control over your room sound.
And you need to close-mic your amp, slightly off center of the speaker.

How to do this.
- Use a smaller room to record in. 
- Put a carpet under you and fabric panels around the walls to deaden the sound.
Even place a fabric panel above you, if you want to go all in. lol
- Put the recording microphone close to your amp.
Like a half inch away from the speaker fabric.
- Consider the type of microphone you are using and get it set up right.
Is it uni-directional or omni-directional?
- Drop a blanket over your amp and amp microphone to contain the recording area.
- Adjust your vocal reverb to accommodate this new set-up. Less is better than more.
The ambient reverb in the room may be enough.
Unless you did a FANTASTIC job of deadening the room. - lol

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Those are some really good suggestions Sketch! But, I'm wondering if John's camcorder has an audio input jack? That would certainly simplify things... The only reason I ask is because I've been shopping for one lately, and I discovered if you want stereo inputs on your camera then you really have to spend some money.

I would also like to know more about the presonus interface and free software. For $100.00 it may be worth having something to do quick recordings on my laptop. Does it have phantom power? Will it record 2 mono tracks simultaneously?

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I'm recording in stereo and these cams are around 140 on Amazon.

If I wss interested in an orchestra of instruments to add to my lyrics, I would buy one of the best.

I'm not about pushing the drums back, bringing the vocals forward, jumping in with a lead guitar in the bridge so on and so on.

I joined this forum because it was called "The Song Writers Forum" Pardon me, were was the prerequisite for:
Audio Recordings
Software Virtual Musicians
Vocal Lessons
Guitar Lessons
And More....
I've even been told to look into the camera
and to check my teeth

Point is, this was portrayed as a forum to share and encourage the Writing of Songs which are in fact LYRICS. When someone can take about 1.5 mins of lyrics and drive them into a 3 min software drive song, and the receive praise, it's clear I'm not welcome here.



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"I've even been told to look into the camera and to check my teeth...."

Hmmm... Perhaps I won't buy a camera after all...

Consider the source John. I'm fairly certain whoever told you that is just another no talent "wanna'be" with no integrity at all. However, if you're going to perform on camera, I can't apologize for encouraging you to play better :)



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JAPOV wrote: Those are some really good suggestions Sketch! But, I'm wondering if John's camcorder has an audio input jack? That would certainly simplify things... The only reason I ask is because I've been shopping for one lately, and I discovered if you want stereo inputs on your camera then you really have to spend some money.

I would also like to know more about the presonus interface and free software. For $100.00 it may be worth having something to do quick recordings on my laptop. Does it have phantom power? Will it record 2 mono tracks simultaneously?

Anthony

I was out for coffee this morning after leaving the post above when it suddenly occurred to me that John was using the camcorder to record the audio. So, everything I said about miking the amp will not work. He's not miking the amp. But gaining control over the room sound does apply.

Yes the Presonus Audiobox USB 96 runs on phantom power via the USB cable plugged into your computer. And I believe it records two mono track simultaneously. Although I have not tried that. It has over dubbing capabilities if that doesn't work. That's how I usually do it. Here's a link to Sweet***er. Still $99.95

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/presonus-audiobox-usb-96-2x2-usb-recording-system/j73514000000000?cntry=us&source=3WWRWXMP&source=3WWRWXMP&msclkid=d596ba2f6db6150f5bbce5a410659e17&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=**LP%20-%20Shop%20-%20Pro%20Audio%20-%20Recording%20Gear%20-%20Audio%20Interfaces&utm_term=4578366447412978&utm_content=J73514000000000%20%7C%20PreSonus%20AudioBox%20USB%2096%202x2%20USB%20Recording%20System%20%7C%20%2499.95

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JAPOV wrote: ... However, if you're going to perform on camera, I can't apologize for encouraging you to play better :)
Bravo. Well said.

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John_Sturgill wrote: ... Point is, this was portrayed as a forum to share and encourage the Writing of Songs which are in fact LYRICS. When someone can take about 1.5 mins of lyrics and drive them into a 3 min software drive song, and the receive praise, it's clear I'm not welcome here.
Wrong on all counts. IMHO

1) You are welcome here.
2) Songwriting is MORE than just written lyrics. MUCH more.
3) We even have sections here for submissions of lyrics only.
4) It is our privilege to critique every aspect of your presentation.
If you provide audio, we can critique it.

Frankly, the audio was so bad it did a disservice to your lyrics. 

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John_Sturgill wrote:
it's clear I'm not welcome here.

You are welcome here, and I hope you don't leave the forum because of this.
When we post our music here, or anywhere online, we are left wide open for critisisms.
And we are free to take it or leave it.
It feels great to get good feedback for our music. And sometimes, not so great to get criticised.
But, it's all meant to help us improve our songwriting.
That's the whole point of this place. To get better.



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samiamiamsam wrote:
John_Sturgill wrote:
it's clear I'm not welcome here.

You are welcome here, and I hope you don't leave the forum because of this.
When we post our music here, or anywhere online, we are left wide open for critisisms.
And we are free to take it or leave it.
It feels great to get good feedback for our music. And sometimes, not so great to get criticised.
But, it's all meant to help us improve our songwriting.
That's the whole point of this place. To get better.


:DITTO: :)



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Motorist Sketchbook wrote:

- Use a smaller room to record in. 


Motorist Sketchbook gave good advices, but I disagree on this particular one. Smaller rooms have shorter reverb is true, but have terrible early reflections and bass build up and ringing resonances.
To record and mix, generally speaking, it is always better to avoid small rooms and square rooms.

I would say rather, use the room where you have more absorbing furniture, the bed, a sofa, curtains...but not a smaller one!!!


The song is nice John, I appreciated the lyrics and your performance and recording is improved from the previous video you posted.



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