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 Posted: Sun Feb 24th, 2019 08:39 pm
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Has anybody seen my capo?



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What is a capo? :(



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It's a device for clamping the strings of a guitar at a certain fret, changing the key. If you put a capo on the 2nd fret, and play a C chord it will come out as a D chord for instance. Mostly used to allow simpler chords or fingerpicking (eg in E rather E flat) whilst still using the key you want to sing in.



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Thanks. Sounds handy.



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Owen forgot to add, thus eliminating the need for a bar or barre chord which requires holding down all 6 stings with one finger while still attempting to cover the other strings with the remaining fingers to make a chord. I’m a newbie to guitar and no matter what it seems insanely difficult. People can say what they want but when(hopefully) I can play I won’t be trying to learn them.

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Once you get the hang of barre chords you will be happy to use them as they give you freedom to move up and down the neck at will. They also open up different voicings of chords which aren't otherwise available. Keep going MP! It's worth the effort. :)



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To play his rhythmic guitar backup pattern in rock songs, Chuck Berry and about every other player, have used bar chords to play in any key! ;)



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I don't use chords.

The chord names are only a reference for me.
Once you understand chords, you no longer need them.
I should clarify... 

I didn't really understand chords, because of the way
they were taught for the guitar. It is important to learn these things initially,
but I would say, learn them with the idea that they are ONLY foundational,
and eventually you will not need them. IMHO

I didn't really understand chords until I studied the bass guitar. Though you
typically don't play chords on the bass, understanding the interval relationships
is important for knowing what to play over a chord indication written in the music.

When I look at a chord chart now
(a page of lyrics with the corresponding chord names)
I don't think about the chords as much as a game plan for playing
an appropriate guitar part. I'm not strumming chords out of a chord book.
That sounds like mud on an electric guitar anyway.

My favorite trick is to play a chord progression as diads. (two note chords)
on two adjacent strings within four frets. This is done by identifying two intervals
within the named chord triad or extension. (7th, 9th, 11th, 13th)
This is not always possible, but it often works out. And if it doesn't,
the additional notes I need are close by.

Probably too much information. But I enjoyed torturing you. lol

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The purpose of a capo is not necessarily to eliminate bar chords. It’s just a quick and easy way to change the key of a song.
Even when using a capo you might still have to bar an occasional chord.
Bar chords are just a part of playing guitar. There’s really no way to get around them.

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samiamiamsam wrote: The purpose of a capo is not necessarily to eliminate bar chords. It’s just a quick and easy way to change the key of a song.
Even when using a capo you might still have to bar an occasional chord.
Bar chords are just a part of playing guitar. There’s really no way to get around them.

I own a capo, but I never use it.
When I bought it I had intended to use it regularly.
But when I put it on the guitar needs to be re-tuned.
So, not "quick and easy" for me.

I know there are more expensive capos that probably work better.
It seems that you have to match the curvature of your fret-board for it to work properly.
And I own a half dozen electric guitars all with a different fingerboard radius.

The CAGED system for guitar defines movable chords.
That is the main concept. Really only the E and A forms are used for barre chords.
If you can identify the root note of each of the CAGED chords. (only five to learn)
And know your fingerboard notes, you can play all the triad chords. 12x12=144 chords.
That's right, just five forms. (with the associated minors - b3) All the triad chords.
12x12x2=288 chords from the basic five (with minors)

If you know the fingerboard, and the five CAGED chord forms with their associated minors.
Bam! 288 chords right there. Those are the basic building blocks of chords. (which I don't use - lol)

I know that you know all this Sam. I'm expanding on what you said for the benefit of
our readers who are feeling overwhelmed about learning how to play the guitar.

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PS --- after those original 288 there are just concepts to apply to the full set.
For instance, a sus chord (suspended) is an added 4th (or raised 3rd) When you understand that
you just apply it to ALL your chords. Same with 7ths and all the extended chords.
A diminished chord is a b5. An augmented chord is a #5.
Again, simply apply to the standard set of 288. (based on 5x2 -- CAGED with minors)

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I have one for my Taylor acoustic. I use it at church sometimes but our music director is good at getting me sheet music in the proper key. So I rarely use it.
Steve, you are correct about having different capos for different size guitar necks.
I bought mine specifically for my guitar and it works good. It stays in tune. For the most part.
I started playing when I was 10. My dad tought me the basics.
C G D A Am E Em and F. He tought me the easy F so I didn’t have to bar it. My hands were so small. lol
I remember a couple years later wanting to learn a song that used Bm. That was my first introduction to bar chords.

This turned into an interesting topic.

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In search of the lost capo became in search of the lost chord. lol - (The Moody Blues)




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Motorist Sketchbook wrote:
In search of the lost capo became in search of the lost chord. lol - (The Moody Blues)


lol, Ride my see-saw! Great album.

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One reason I’ll be sticking to country. 3 chord songs. Everything else in this thread is way over my head.



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If anyone is interested, we could discuss basic chord theory. (chord scale intervals)
If you understand that, you can make your own guitar chords.
The prerequisite is knowing the fretboard though.
So, we might need to start there.

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I’m about a week into guitartricks.com lessons. No clue of fretboard, triads, nashville number system, caged etc. I’ve watched plenty of videos but no where close to what you guys know.



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M.P. Dudash wrote: I’m about a week into guitartricks.com lessons. No clue of fretboard, triads, nashville number system, caged etc. I’ve watched plenty of videos but no where close to what you guys know.
Work on it every day. You'll get there pretty quick.
How long could it take to learn three chords?

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I’ve known several chords for some time now. I’ve only ever played anything by ear. Thinking that isn’t helping. The struggle continues.



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M.P. Dudash wrote:
I’ve known several chords for some time now. I’ve only ever played anything by ear. Thinking that isn’t helping. The struggle continues.

Keep at it MP. There are progression videos on youtube about how far new players can come in a year. It's better if you start when you're young, but my brother started playing guitar when he was in his early 20's, and he's a monster on it now.

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