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 Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2018 03:17 pm
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How's it going today?

I was thinking today about some of the struggles that come along with songwriting. When you first dive into it, it can seem like something that is out of reach. You think 'Man, it would be so cool to be able to write a song and be able to say 'I wrote that!'' You don't know how to go about it though and realize how much you have to learn to become a GREAT songwriter.

My question to you is this: what have been some of your biggest struggles as a songwriter? These can be things like mental blocks, self-doubt, etc. It can also be more technical things like music theory topics, lyric writing, instrumentation, etc.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15th, 2018 09:05 pm
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As a Christian, writing is a breeze for me, as Holy God sends the words, most especially of gospel songs communicated by his Holy Spirit, every word to type here! In fact, it is my opinion that God, my heavenly Father, is actually the one writing all of my songs now! If you do not know my Christ Jesus, Savior of the World, I invite you to ask him into your heart today, to give perfect peace, joy will never cease, you shall the life crown win! These are some of the words to my favorite gospel song I have sung and played in my local church. God loves the World and is always reaching out to save all of it! Peace :D



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Well, one of the problems I've had is just being mentally stuck and not writing anything - sometimes for years at a time. No doubt I would have made more progress without that!



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Sometime it takes a while. It's different for every song I think. I've worked on songs for years trying to perfect them. My biggest struggle sometimes is just putting the finishing touch on a song. But I try to never get in a hurry. Don't give up buddy.



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I am so pleased that my brother in music, Owen, has had his quiver full of songs in this year of 2018! The lyrics and music fit together like a hand in a glove. :cool:



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As for most of us I'd just say the block and wondering if it will pass. I tend to try to write almost daily or at least jot down ideas or even single lines. Anyone can write a song, but in my opinion before I can call myself a songwriter I would have to have something recorded on a professional level.



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Since I do not have a music background I always question if my writing is technically inferior, or is simply improper. So, I write as I like (verses and choruses). I definitely struggle more with the chorus parts which maybe should be a starting point? Hoping practice makes perfect, so I keep trying.



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Well the good news, Andrea, is that there is no "technically correct' way to write a song :)

You can start with the chorus, a verse, a melody, a title, a hook or an idea - whatever works for you. And if you talk with people here you will find examples of all of those!

A musical background is helpful in that it gives you more tools to work with. But you can use whatever tools are at your disposal and still craft a beautiful song.



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Thanks - that is good news to me. Belonging to this forum helps too. Somethings will always come harder, but hopefully with practice they will become easier.



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I've felt my songwriting has been restricted by the lack of skill I have with my guitar and piano, and the lack of quality in my voice.

I recognise these restrictions as it's hard to "noodle" when I'm not good enough technically to do so, and a lot of ideas and inspirations come that way, I'm told.

I have also struggled with melody because I am not a good enough singer in my opinion.

However, I decided one day to NOT let these issues restrict me. While I don't have a good singing voice or a wide range, I have learned that a lot of pro singers don't have that much more of a range than I do. Of course there are exceptions (Daryl Braithewait!) I took singing lessons, purely to learn how to breath properly and how to practice, and since then though my voice still lacks quality, my range has expanded and I actually hit the note intended now and then!

The main point though, was making a concious decision to not allow my lack of technical perfomance ability to affect my creativity. I simply leave the performing to the performers!

Of course now we just need to get the performers to stop writing their own material!

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Kel wrote: I've felt my songwriting has been restricted by the lack of skill I have with my guitar and piano, and the lack of quality in my voice.

I recognise these restrictions as it's hard to "noodle" when I'm not good enough technically to do so, and a lot of ideas and inspirations come that way, I'm told.

I have also struggled with melody because I am not a good enough singer in my opinion.

However, I decided one day to NOT let these issues restrict me. While I don't have a good singing voice or a wide range, I have learned that a lot of pro singers don't have that much more of a range than I do. Of course there are exceptions (Daryl Braithewait!) I took singing lessons, purely to learn how to breath properly and how to practice, and since then though my voice still lacks quality, my range has expanded and I actually hit the note intended now and then!

The main point though, was making a concious decision to not allow my lack of technical perfomance ability to affect my creativity. I simply leave the performing to the performers!

Of course now we just need to get the performers to stop writing their own material!

Cheers,
Kel

I think it helps to only be in competition with yourself.
My goal is to do better than what I have done previously with every song.
To continue to improve one step at a time.

You got it right when you wrote: "I simply leave the performing to the performers!"

Be yourself. Be the best "you" that you can be.
Let your unique voice be heard. You have a perspective that no one else has.

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My current struggles are very different than the ones I used to have. Before it was thinking of new song subjects, or making lines flow well. Now it's having the time to get out all the songs I have ideas for! How times change.



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Well that's a better problem to have Brum!
I'll take that one every time :)



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Glad to know I am not the only one who encounters self-doubt sometimes! A long-range point of view is quite useful in these situations, I believe. At least, it certainly helps me through the dry times.



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Every time I write a lyric I think it's going to my my last, and that's been the case for the past 10 years. I probably write one decent lyric a month, but they can come in quick succession, leaving me with weeks of nothingness. That can be stressful.

I'm luck enough to have a writing partner, who's great on melodies, as who's a talented musician and singer. I remember before that, how frustrated I was not being able to realise the music that was in my head. The first time I heard one of my compositions played the way I imagined the song sounding was magical. A special moment. But one day, the partnership will end, and that will be that. That can be stressful too.



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I struggled for a long time trying to learn how to use several DAWs up until very recently.I know nothing about the technical side of things, and found that it was causing negativity and taking away from writing. I let it go, and am putting all my energy back into writing. I want to develop what I CAN do, and I feel much more motivated and creative again, and I love that feeling.



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I think self doubt is the biggest problem in song writing. You have to believe in yourself! Good luck!

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My struggles right now with songwriting is the lyrical part. Coming up with interesting topics - There are times when I am just totally dry on ideas. I have more ideas for melodies than lyrics.



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JayKay wrote:
My struggles right now with songwriting is the lyrical part. Coming up with interesting topics - There are times when I am just totally dry on ideas. I have more ideas for melodies than lyrics.

JayKay, if you write music, there are plenty of people here that might be interested in working with you. Even making melodies for lyrics is something people need. This is a great collaboration skill. Consider using it :)



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That sounds great that there are people here who write lyrics because I do enjoy the challenge of constructing a song, especially when the lyrics are good.



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