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 Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2018 07:04 pm
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Hello everybody,
My name is Martin and I live in County Down in Northern Ireland.
I've been writing songs for many years now, mostly with composer partners, as lyrics are my strong point and although I play some guitar, I would never call myself a musician...
My first foray into songwriting was in the mid Seventies (yes, I'm that old!) when I wrote with Mike Maxfield, previously lead guitarist with Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas and composer of an instrumental hit in the Sixties ("The Cruel Sea"). We wrote many songs together for artists like Desmond Dekker and had four songs released as A side/B sides of two singles.
In the Eighties I moved from my native London to Northern Ireland and met the composer/producer John Truesdale. At the time dance music was big on the charts so as we wrote in a more traditional, verse/chorus vein, we concentrated our efforts on Country music where the song still reigned supreme. We visited Nashville twice, slogging around Music Row with our cassettes of songs and had many adventures without actually cracking the market (at one point the local TV station made a documentary all about us with footage of John and our singer playing at the Bluebird). As fate would have it we narrowly missed getting a song on Garth Brooks second album which of course went stratospheric and would've earned us a fortune!
After a long hiatus, John and I are back writing again - good catchy Country/Pop, but need to learn more about the current way things are for songwriters in this digital age. To try the traditional route and get signed by a publisher - even though they don't accept submissions anymore or go down the Taxi.com road or is Soundcloud and You Tube the answer?
That's why I've signed up with you guys and hope to become re-educated in the near future. My question to all of you is: we have the first rate songs and demos - now what?    

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 Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2018 07:19 pm
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Welcome King! I bet you've got some great stories.

Yeah, I suppose the music scene has really changed. The good news... it's a lot easier to get your music to the masses, but the bad news is there is so much more competition now. The market is saturated in my opinion. There is some great talent and music out there but it's hard to find it.

I upload to youtube and soundcloud. I'd put some of your music up on one of those at least, and see what happens.

Just make sure you use a copywrite symbol in your description and you should be ok.

Looking forward to hearing some of your music.



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 Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2018 07:21 pm
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Hi Martin ,welcome to the forum. In my opinion and from experience the way to go is putting your songs on Youtube/social media to get your music out there and build a fan base. There are sites that will put your music on streaming sites like iTunes, Spotify, AmazonMusic etc for a cut (no upfront fee) I use routenote.com. I think that once you get popular and have a fanbase then record companies/publishers take notice. In the meantime you get exposure and hopefully some income from your music.

A great guy who is an expert on all this is Damian Keyes. He has a book out and his Youtube channel is https://www.youtube.com/user/Damiankeyes - his tutorials have been a huge help to me.

If you need any help though about running your social media, what to use etc get in touch i'm happy to help.



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 Posted: Tue Oct 23rd, 2018 07:14 pm
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Thanks guys,
I imagined this is what you all were going to say - but didn't expect you to come back this quickly! Thanks.
Some very valuable advice there which I will be looking into over the next few days, thanks again for clarifying the best routes forward and good luck to you guys - see you in the charts, eh?

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 Posted: Thu Oct 25th, 2018 02:33 am
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Haha see you in the charts mate



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 Posted: Thu Oct 25th, 2018 10:41 pm
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Welcome Martin :)

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Welcome.

When you are ready, we are ready.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 8th, 2018 03:30 pm
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Hello again everyone, Just wanted to share this with you:
I contacted a Dublin music publisher (I live in Ireland) who was interested in hearing my songs so I sent them links to Souncloud (thanks Kev) and this is the answer I got:

Hi Martin,
 
Thanks for sending us your songs. They are excellent.
However nowadays it is almost impossible to get a song covered unless you work directly with either the artist or producer or both.
Regarding Nashville even if you write with a local writer the chances of getting a cover are slim.
I’m afraid there is nothing we can do to help you but best of luck with your career.
 

What chance have we got when people in "the biz" that can potentially earn millions from one of your songs and think they are "excellent" can't do anything with them? Is Taxi.com the only choice we have?


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 Posted: Thu Nov 8th, 2018 09:25 pm
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It is discouraging. :?

If you are not a performer yourself, the chances of getting anyone else interested in your song are very small.

Wish I knew the answer!

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