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 Posted: Sat May 12th, 2018 11:22 pm
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Discussing a video topic with a colleague.

--- 10 Ways to Deal with Writer's Block. ---

I have some ideas on the subject.
Wanted to get some input/discussion going here.

- Do you get writer's block?
- How do you deal with it?

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Yep, sure do.

The more general kind is not writing anything at all. I find the best way to overcome that is to first listen to someone else's music, preferably something new just to stir the brain, then force myself to write something - anything, just to get over that initial hurdle. The first one will likely be awful, but it seems to break the dam and let others come thru afterwards.

Sometimes I get stuck with a specific song. It's half-written and I can't seem to finish it. There I find it's better to put it down and walk away for a while. Come back in a week's time or whenever. If I try to just get it finished it always come's out the poorer for it. I've learnt not to get too impatient and let my brain work it out subconsciously.

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I think this thing about writer's block is a context of learning understanding and moving on, like who created the universe who created reality who created god.

Like who created writers, Reality, :cool:

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I try to keep 3 or 4 things going at once, that way if I get stuck or bored, I can hop from one to the other. And I try to keep things fluid, nothing is etched in stone, even years after I consider something finished, I might discover that clever rhyme that eluded me in the original version. Another method I use is to just write rhymes I find interesting. I can't count the number of times a song has blossomed out of a list of rhymes.
A couple of days ago, I was looking through an old notebook and I found a long list of smilies, thin as a dime, thick as thieves, dry as melba toast, cold as a well diggers wallet, etc., 3 columns per page and about ten pages long, many of them completely illegible. Did I find what I was looking for at the time? Honestly, I couldn't remember writing it, so probably not, but I must've been compelled to write something, so the exercise was not entirely futile.



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Absolutely, been more than usual as of late. I've actually come to accept it, somewhat, knowing that as soon as I hear the right phrase etc that it will come back to me. I've got a book of hundreds of titles and can pull one from there to start if needed but usually have a few irons in the fire at the same time. Mornings seem to be my most creative times or while driving. I seem to get burned out a little also at times, so I think a break can be good. When I started it was like opening the flood gates but now it's more of a trickle. I do think I've been trying to write with more meaning so though it takes me longer I believe the end product has become better.



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Here's your chance to see me beating my head against a post.
We finally completed this video project. Here's the title and YouTube link.

9 Ways To Deal With Writers Block
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H_dmUOfa6c

Be sure to COMMENT and LIKE and SUBSCRIBE. Thanks.

- Steve

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Yes I do,

But I used to get it much more often when I started out writing around 15 years ago.

It is possible to get around writers block in different ways. One method I found to be quite effective is to give the song you are struggling with a 30 minute break. Experience with writing songs will eventually make it easier to get past this issue.

Hope this was helpful.

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Tor Løvstad wrote: Yes I do,

But I used to get it much more often when I started out writing around 15 years ago.

It is possible to get around writers block in different ways. One method I found to be quite effective is to give the song you are struggling with a 30 minute break. Experience with writing songs will eventually make it easier to get past this issue.

Hope this was helpful.

Best wishes
Tor Løvstad

Thanks Tor,

That's a good tip.

Here's your chance to see me beating my head against a post.
We finally completed this video project. Here's the title and YouTube link.

9 Ways To Deal With Writers Block
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H_dmUOfa6c

Be sure to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE and COMMENT. Thanks.

- Steve



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Yes it is common in all of us but what I find is the best solution is setting small goals and forcing yourself to sit and write. That is what works best for me.

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RainyDayMan wrote:
Yep, sure do.

The more general kind is not writing anything at all. I find the best way to overcome that is to first listen to someone else's music, preferably something new just to stir the brain, then force myself to write something - anything, just to get over that initial hurdle. The first one will likely be awful, but it seems to break the dam and let others come thru afterwards.

Sometimes I get stuck with a specific song. It's half-written and I can't seem to finish it. There I find it's better to put it down and walk away for a while. Come back in a week's time or whenever. If I try to just get it finished it always come's out the poorer for it. I've learnt not to get too impatient and let my brain work it out subconsciously.
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Marty, you appear to have edited my comment, but quoted it as if I made it - viz adding "Wow! The subconscious mind is powerful, and perhaps our very best songs are awaiting there for us to discover. Meditation may be the key!"
I don't appreciate that. By all means add your own comments but don't attribute them to others.

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OscoBosco wrote: Yes it is common in all of us but what I find is the best solution is setting small goals and forcing yourself to sit and write. That is what works best for me.
That's good.
We need to push ourselves, but not with unreasonable expectations.
And know when to stop. I can tell when I am tired and need a break.

Some things require more creative energy than others too.
If I don't have the energy to create a part or write a lyric,
I might have enough energy to do some mixing on a recording, 
or type up my lyrics, or do some research, or forum song reviews.

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Now that I am posting my own words in the right place, I say that I personally believe that our subconscious minds may be very powerful, and we might be able to tap into them by taking a time of quiet reflection and meditation to bring the very best songs within us to the surface!!! Please take all the time you need to find the words that you are searching for and do not allow a block to be a problem for you. In time, all of us can reach unto the words we are trying to express. Good luck to all of you in the future with coming up with some great songs! :cool:



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Marty Ray Boone wrote:
Now that I am posting my own words in the right place, I say that I personally believe that our subconscious minds may be very powerful, and we might be able to tap into them by taking a time of quiet reflection and meditation to bring the very best songs within us to the surface!!! Please take all the time you need to find the words that you are searching for and do not allow a block to be a problem for you. In time, all of us can reach unto the words we are trying to express. Good luck to all of you in the future with coming up with some great songs! :cool:

First of all Happy new year Marty to you and yours, i kinda disagree with the quiet reflection but i do know what you mean but for me my best ideas come from hearing reality, they speech the most important words :cool:

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There's different types of block as well as solutions
For example, I'll dig out something old if I'm stuck on something new, and just keep flipping through files and notebooks till there's something I can go with.

But I presume people mostly mean you definitely want finished now. In that instance, I just keep on going writing anything. There's normally bits in that mess to work with.

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Sometimes walking away from a project for a while is the best thing. Just go back later with a fresh perspective.
Never rush anything if it's not working.



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'Never rush anything if it's not working'. That's good advice.

Does anyone leave things and then realise the block wasn't too little but too much? Over-complication, too many words, that kind of thing?

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Kind of feeling that block these days. I think brainstorming ideas is helpful. I try to get my family involved (not always their favorite). I write down almost everything. One idea leads to another.

It does seems I can hit that dry spell, and then I get a couple ideas at a time. I am always working on more than one song. When I feel lost or drained on one song, I move to the next. Finishing is the next hard part.



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This is some great discussion. Good to see.
I encourage everyone to figure out what works for them.
My solution might not be your solution.
But you might have a good idea for me.

Generally the ideas come to me,
I don't have to search for them, or dream them up.
If I am in the mood to work on something,
I will open my notebook and read what is there,
half finished, or barely started. Something will stand out from
the rest that seems to be asking me to work on it.

But with this huge pile of demos I am working on
I have taken a "whatever is next" on the list approach.
Probably not a good idea. But...

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PS --- I'll be posting a new demo tonight.



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