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 Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2012 12:39 am
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Above Infection wrote:
Donna wrote: Seth, this reads more like a poem. If you want to write a lyric to attract a musician, it's important to structure it like one. Please re-read what I wrote in my post on your previous lyric. :)

Depending upon the genre, you're going to need a chorus. A song needs to have some kind of payoff - and that is in the chorus (unless you're writing an old-fashioned folk song consisting of several verses - but even then, the verses need to be consistent in their structure and metering).

No one is going to listen to an instrumental intro lasting 3 minutes (unless it's prog-rock). In fact, your whole song shouldn't last more than around 3 minutes, and that includes verses, choruses, and bridge. ;)

Mind you, I'm commenting with the assumption you want to learn to write in order to have commercial possibilities. If you're not, and you only want to write songs for your own enjoyment, you can of course do anything you like. :D

Can i suggest an artist where there is no chorus and around a 2:30 instrumental chorus? The Rocket Summer. He is a writing genius. He has a couple songs out without a chorus and they are magnificent. If you would please look up Treasure (not the one with intro) and Christmas Present (one with long intro)

There have always been songs (some memorable, some not) which break the "ALWAYS NEED A CHORUS" rule. (The same can be said of nearly every "rule."

If that weren't true, then there would be a stifling sameness to every song... a formulaic strangulation of creativity.

Every song that is memorable IS memorable precisely BECAUSE it's somehow different from the sea of sameness that comes from following formulas.

I disagree with Donna that one must follow this (or any) rule religiously.

One should however, break rules like one would go to war... RELUCTANTLY. To be memorable, a song has to be different in some way. TOO different just annoys people. The audience DOES matter in legitimate art. It just can't be the only thing that matters to any true artist.

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